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New Florida law would grant cops right to impound cars playing loud music

Sarasota, Florida - A new law, up for a final vote next month, would grant police in Sarasota the authority to impound vehicles found playing their stereos too loud and charge up to $650 in fines for repeat violators. 

Not surprisingly, the law has proven controversial.  On one side of argument, there's the older residents in the community that complain about the ubiquitous culture of pimped out audio systems whose bass shakes the windows of homes as the Fast and the Furious lookalike cars drive by.  They applaud the effort to get the volumes down to a reasonable level that doesn't disturb anyone else and have called the law "long overdue."

On the other side, there's the younger residents, who spend thousands on car audio components to hear their music at peak volumes, showcase their financial success or to just vie for attention via thundering bass and super-chromed rims.  They feel the punishment exceeds the crime and have been voicing their disgust over the law in online forums.  

The concern of these "scafflaws" is joined by other citizens who feel the new law grants local police too much discretionary authority which may be used to harass or intimidate younger adults or minority groups.  Under the law, police can stop drivers if they can hear the music 25 feet away.

 

Granting citations to residents for noise violations isn't new to Sarasota.  Last year, the police department issued 282 citations for loud stereos. Each citation costs drivers $74.50, an amount increased by up to 770 percent under the proposed law - plus any charges related to towing and impound.  

If you haven't decided by now which side of the argument you side with, consider this scenario:  It's 3 am and you're almost home from a long drive.  You've been visiting your family in Atlanta and are exhausted.  To avoid falling asleep at the wheel, you open the windows and crank up the music volume.  As you drive past the center of town, you pass a police car.  You're not speeding, but within seconds you see the flashing lights pull up behind you and you begin slowing down and pulling to the shoulder of the road. 

The officer informs you that your volume is too loud.  You try to explain, telling him that the reason the volume is so high is to avoid falling asleep and crashing into a small house.  He curtly tells you you should've gotten a hotel along the way, issues you a ticket for $650 dollars, and calls a tow-truck to tow your car away.  An hour later, you're stranded on the road and forced to call a cab for a ride to the impound lot where you pay $100 to get your car back.  By the time you get home, it's 5 a.m. and you're down $750, a night's sleep, and notice a scratch on your bumper from the tow truck. 

Granted, no one wants to be woken up by loud noise at 3 am but we're all forced to live with such disturbances.  Garbage trucks smash metal bins at 6 am, buses roll by vibrating windows and doors, sirens wail at all hours, Harley Davidson motorcycles thunder by, and kids scream at one another before the birds have begun chirping wildly.  Should we fine all of them? Of course not.  And even if we do selectively punish those who make a racket without serving a civic need, the punishment should fit the crime. So if a cop isn't going to issue a $650 speeding ticket to a reckless driver, he shouldn't have the authority to fine and confiscate the car of a music enthusiast - however vain and inconsiderate that person may be.


 


Published Apr 24 2008, 08:59 AM by Andrew B. Einhorn |  Email |  Print



Comments

ha said:
methinks it hasn't been long at all since you were a teenager. what shoddy logic. (hmmm, if someone invests a lot of money in something, it shouldn't be illegal?) hmmmm, if I need to do X which is offensive and disturbing to 1,000 people, but is in my or my family's best interests, then it is okay. it's called self-centeredness.
April 24, 2008 12:34 PM
homesaywhat said:
think u missed the point genius. that being its overlegislating. you can't do this, you can't do that, pull up your pants, turn down your music, cut your hair - all matters of TASTE that cannot be LEGISLATED. methinks you are a crotchedy old republican. perhaps a Bush?
April 24, 2008 4:03 PM
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April 27, 2008 6:55 AM
mike said:
well it doesnt have to do with being republican, because either side of the 2 party system is not your friend, and will think nothing of passing laws that make this world a more restrictive place to exist. Though it does seem now more than ever that this country is taking a path of strict punishments, I believe this country, from behind the scenes has been taken over by a very heavy handed forceful rule, and has even brainwashed most of the citizens into wanting these ways. No longer do people pride themselves in standing for freedom, true freedom, but elevate themselves when uniting themselves with pointing the finger, and "making things 'safe'", by any means even trampling on property rights all the way to just plain ratting people out. Not enough have the courtesy, kindness, or good judgement. Seems no one remembers where they came from, and so few can put themselves in anothers place to have the realization of what it might be like for another person.
April 29, 2008 9:00 PM
iAmShocked said:

If someone is so tired that they need loud music to stay awake ... then they shouldn't even by driving on road! Wake up this is not a PS3 game ... they is real life where people can get hurt by one stupid mistake!!

May 4, 2008 6:16 PM
Peter said:

"but we're all forced to live with such disturbances."

Some of us refuse to put up with noise pollution. Enough is enough. I think those who make noise to disturb another person's peace and health are getting off easy even with this new law. The offending equipment should also be confiscated.

You know darn well this law is not meant for the average person just playing their tunes. The law is meant for the dimwits with the souped up sound systems made for the express purpose of assaulting other people's senses.

In your hypothetical situation, the driver should also be charged with reckless driving. Driving while sleep deprived is dangerous and causes accidents and deaths on the road.

May 5, 2008 8:18 PM
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May 7, 2008 7:56 PM
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May 7, 2008 11:21 PM
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May 8, 2008 10:17 AM
He's Right! said:
Don't forget to includethe loud motorcycles, too. They're all criminals.
May 16, 2008 4:44 PM
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May 18, 2008 7:36 AM
JDP said:
I think that every body needs to worry about thereself your worried about loud music but what about all these drug dealer,murders,rapers, and your worried about loud music get real every body has likes and dislikes that what makes the world if every bodys the same what would the world be like this is a stuipid subject worry about the major crimes and leave the petty stuff alone they get fined 74.50 each time eventually they will stop if not oh well
May 18, 2008 8:11 PM
Fedup and going nuts said:
It's about freakin' time. I hope and pray and will give money to any politician who votes for this law. I've called and called the cops about these idiots. They don't understand the concept of the 25 foot rule. Heck I'm not sure they can count that high. I'm sitting here in my house, windows and doors closed watching TV with surround sound no less and have to compete with the idiots with the bass. You tell them to turn it down and see the reaction. My neighbor's grandson who is around my age pulls this crap. I've talked to him 3 times now and his dad. That's right he's visiting his nearly 90-year-old grandparents while booming this crap. Take their cars away!! The 74.50 ticket is obviously not a deterrent since the cops half the time don't bother to write a ticket. They can afford it with all the money they waste on equipment that makes their car stereo illegal. And if they can afford all that junk they can sure as heck invest in soundproofing material for their cars and keep their windows rolled up. I've had it and can't wait to move in a couple of years to a big BIG lot in a neighborhood with an HOA who won't put up with this crap.
May 18, 2008 8:34 PM
To JDP said:
Well let's see the morons down the street have people come with their bass cranked, stay for 5 minutes and leave again. Wonder what THEY'RE doing? It's not hard to figure out. And the cops need to start giving tickets out before the fine becomes a deterrent. Oh btw, do you think speeding tickets are a deterrent? The cops can't manage to go the speed limit and they're the ones who are supposed to be enforcing the law. Impound the vehicles and rip out the stereos. Return the car to them incapable of playing music that can be heard more than 25 feet away. It's not about likes and dislikes it's about harassing the people whose houses they drive by constantly.
May 18, 2008 8:36 PM
Dave said:
I think it's an excellent idea...if someone's music bothers me, take away their car. Oh, and if I'm in the grocery store and some kid is screaming, don't forget to take away the kid and make the parent pay to get the kid back. And God forbid that the parent raises his/her voice at the kid...take the parent away! What about when you're watching TV and a commercial comes on that's much louder than the audio in the show. Should we fine that company that used volume in the commercial to get your attention? And when I'm at the park and somebody's dog barks unexpectedly and scares the beegees out of me? We should probably have that dog put down, don't you think? And why limit all of this to noise? What if someone is wearing a shirt that I don't like...heck, if it's offending me, the police should probably take that person's shirt away! Or maybe someone has a tattoo on their arm that I don't like...time to cut off that person's arm! Where does the idiocy stop? Old people, young people...doesn't matter. If you want to live in society, you NEED to be tolerant of a lot of things that you don't necessarily like. If loud music in a car that's driving by is going to bother you that much, then move someplace where there are no cars. Find an island, a third world country, or some god-awful remote part of the world that no one else would want to move to...then you won't have to hear any music, any loud noises, deal with any people...and you can act like your good-old Hitler self all you want without offending those of us who are at least somewhat rational.
May 20, 2008 8:20 AM
carlos said:
look if u think a system bothers u well let's talk bout all thus trucks with theyre WANa be trailer truck exahust, what bout the Harly dividson crap whats with that crap I mean if u think ure old and mature well stop driving a oversized lawnmower motor imean think about it all this old people complain and call the police because of noise and anhour later they put their leather jackets and get on theyre 15 thousand dollar bikes and well now thats exesive noise don't u think. If the system bother well theres some called one of the 59 and up mobile home community I bet I'll love it there with free bingo games every week. I mean why complain yall getting a check every month for free just live with it serious. And is true bout what I read b4 next time I go to the store and some kid cries and screams I'm gona callthe cops cause now that bothers me. You all had ur childhood and had ur elvis time now is hip hopand we like loud is nothing bad. And take the car away, thats so ididotic do u old people happens to know how much wehave to go thru to get and pay for our cars I mean come one geez first it was we're all wreckless and crazy now we're loud well thnx alot we apprepciate how much u all care bout us and respect us thats what we like and we gona keep doing it if I get my car taken away well guess what ima go get it bad and redo it over and over. By the I really hope that u like hip hop cause ull b ofit cause this is not gona work just like the cell phone and driving law. Haha yeah right ive seen cops on the phone while driving u know I'm just wasting my time I don't care what people think, this is a free country so bye
May 20, 2008 5:35 PM
Sarah J said:

Are some of you kidding???  There is someone in my neighborhood blasting their system right now.  I can hear it through my A/C in the middle of my house with all the windows closed and they are three doors down. Is that fair?  When I ask my neighbors to turn down the systems they laugh at me so I have to call the police???  Is that fair to have to use law enforcement that way???  No, it's not far for me and the elderly lady on the other side who is afraid to ask them to turn it down and afraid to call the police.  Do you understand that music like the one mentioned in this article can and will make the owners deaf.  The problem is that the people playing the music are already deaf because they have been playing this music loudly for so long.  They are also blasting their earphones so loudly that people can hear them outside their ears.   They don't care right now because they are young and youth thinks it's above the laws of nature.  Ask them in 15 years.  I don't care if the guy was falling asleep.  If you are that tired pull over, take a nap or wait until the morning to drive.  I am awakened nightly (between 1-5am) by people in my neighborhood that blast their stereos so loudly I can hear it over my a/c, over my Bose Noise canceling headphones and over the three pillows I've put over my head.  They also don't seem to think it is a problem to blast their $20.000 systems in the middle of the day so loudly that it shakes my windows.  This is not right.  Impounding someone's car and a $600.00 fine on the first offense is excessive but I think after the first warning or if the stereo isn't turned down more power to the police.  It's time for some peace and quiet.  If you want to wreck your ears do it at your own expense with your ear phones stuck in your own ears until you can't even hear yourself think, but leave us out of it.

July 2, 2008 6:20 PM
Sarah J said:

Carlos you are an idiot.  How about taking a spelling course too.  Sounds of nature or children crying last for what 10 minutes???  Trucks bring goods to you, Harley's revving up??  A free country doesn't mean you get to do whatever you want whenever you want to unless you are George Bush.  So you should suck it up because we are going to continue to call the police on you and we are going to continue to have your car impounded because while yes, it is a free country, it's my right to have some peace and quiet.

July 2, 2008 6:23 PM
Sarah J said:
Dave too. I really don't think reasonable person thinks that loud music for 3 minutes is a reason to impound anyone's car or levy a $600.00 fine, but I do think that it's always the people that don't want to comply with the laws that are screaming "civil rights violation". It does not matter what governmental party you vote with, free speech does not give you the right to shake my windows with your car stereo at any time of the day or night. When your free speech is in my yard it is breaking the law. Yes, it is annoying when someone pulls up at a light and their stereo is so loud it is literally shaking his trunk, my hood, and the windows of the person next to him. That is not right. If a dog is barking incessantly at night or during the day you have the right to call the police and or ask the owner to quiet the dog. That is the law, I keep my dog quiet outside in the yard. She is a barker, but if she barks for more than 5 minutes I bring her INSIDE. That, is what grow-up people do. I am sure that if I took the speakers to my stereo system put them in the front yard and blasted Puccini at 2am, the same people who accuse me of being intollerant would be out of their houses so fast it would be like the wind. But then again, perhaps not, because they are all deaf from the crap music they play so loudly you can't even tell what it is.
July 2, 2008 6:31 PM
IGotSixTwelves said:
Cops are so dumb these days. They will do anything they possibly can to get a little extra bread. We are putting lots of money into what we like. Cops shouldn't have the right to restrict what we like. That's like making me hangout on friday with a suit, instead of a nice polo and some rocawear jeans. The police just are forgetting whats really going on in the town, and to worried about getting paid, and lunch break. Cops Don't have the mindset of criminals, thats why they have to think of something like "loud music" to attract attention towards. They need to observe the setting more, to understand when/where something is about to go down. Ya Digg?? Holla at ya boy 6 12's. My Motto is "You Can Hear Me when I'm coming, But You Can't See Me When I'm Leaving." 01 Suburban Murdered out.
July 16, 2008 5:31 PM
FedUp said:
Bull, when a system is powerful enough to knock someones fillings out and can be felt not heard 3 blocks away, it's not only time to take away the vehicle it's time to take away the operator of that vehicle who is most likely on some serious illegal drugs, most normal people can't stand that kind of sound pressure!
July 17, 2008 8:54 AM
ex-nyer said:
While i do fall within the age range of the most often offenders (18-30) i do agree that i shouldn't have to have my baby woken up by some nitwit with a system. but on the flip side of the law, it gives the police way to much leeway in impounding a vehicle. i have had my fair share of harassment from police, and to give them a law that in essence allows them to use nothing but their discretion in the impounding of a vehicle (in other places they use the noise violation law to add additional fines, whether they had their stereo on or not) would be something that makes me feel less safe... increase the fines, it becomes easier to fight it if you are harassed, leave the impounding to provable offenses like drunk driving.
August 1, 2008 10:42 AM
Gardawg said:
If one cares to listen to loud noise then they can wear headphones and not disturb others... Loud stereos are for attention whores who buy those sound makers for the express purpose of bothering others Take away the car, $1000 fine and 30 days in jail ...
August 19, 2008 9:33 AM
Let's Outlaw Broccoli and legalize Crack!! said:
What a bunch of brainwashed people here. The people who understand that this law is complete BS and only made to steal our money, are the smart ones, however no one really seems angry about this new law. If you realized how addictive BASS really is, and you liked it as much as I do, then you would be as mad as I am about this. This is the kind of thing that riots could get started over, if you ask me. This is not only another BLOW at our freedom (which is getting to be less and less) but this is a TRAGEDY. I LIVE FOR BASS, without it I have no life. So, this is like taking someone's LIFE away from them. This is like MURDER. I know the law was made only to STEAL our money, but this has gone too far. I am very very dissapointed in our brainwashed society to even allow a law like this to pass. I am gonna crank up my 10,000 watt system and drive around every neighborhood in sarasota, and shatter everyone's windows with my EXTREME BASS, and then they'll have a reason to complain. In response to the brainwashed morons- 1st SARAH J- All I have to say to you is "Have you ever heard of "Growing DOWN" ? If not, you better study up about it, QUICK! (for your own sake). It's a REAL thing...you don't want to grow up...you need to learn to GROW DOWN...and this will help you to keep your inner child within you...and not become a brainwashed ZOMBIE...like EVERYONE who voted for this new law, is. Have some respect for people who like MUSIC. Here is a fact for you brainwashed people- Without BASS systems, certain types of music (and especially the kind I like) CANNOT BE REPRODUCED the way the artist originally intended, so this new law is ALSO A VIOLATION of the artists rights to freedom of expression. If you CANT STAND the music, why dont YOU PUT IN EAR PLUGS for the WHOLE 30 seconds that you have to deal with it for! You ask US to wear headphones....NEWS FLASH! You don't have NEARLY ENOUGH BASS listening to headphones! YOU ARE THE ONES WHO NEED TO BE WEARING THINGS.... earplugs that is. WE HAVE OUR SYSTEMS THE WAY THEY ARE MEANT TO BE. and one more note......WOW! Make someone stop listening to their music for the rest of their life, just so YOU dont have to hear it for 30 lousy seconds?! I hope all of you who were stupid enough to vote for a law that was made to STEAL our money, are in front of me at the next red light! WAKE UP PEOPLE, EVEN IF WE HAD ANARCHY IN THIS COUNTRY, BASS WOULD STILL BE HERE!!
September 3, 2008 3:53 PM
Ian said:
I think thats bullcrap that just because some crochidy old man doesnt like someones taste in music they should have the right to take that persons car away,being someone who ownes a vary loud sound system myself and my friend ownes one as well,and we both put alot of money and time into the cars so we like to show it off,if you got oh say a new paint job on your car with a really cool graphic on it wouldnt you like to show it off? why take someones car for something as dumb as music people listen to music all day long so what if some like it louder then others that doesnt give anyone the right to take thier car away,this law is just anuther way to make more money for our peace of shit economy and our poor ass country,how about this insted of pissing a bunch of people off by taking thier car away and making them pay a bunch of money they dont have,get the goverment to go drill for oil in alaska theres a shit load of it there,you just got to find it dumb asses,that will inprove economy and solve a lot of problums,and for the music part if i get forced to listen to 1960-1980's music at work because theres a bunch of old people useing credit cards in the store i think after work they should have to deal with my music for the 15 seconds to a minut that im next to them at a red light,so stop being arogent basterds and help the economy a little by making suggestions to go drill in alaska and try to get some of thoes rich dimocrats to donate money for the poor economy insted of bitching about it,hell they simm in it i dont think it would hurt for them to donate to the cause
September 6, 2008 9:13 AM
You do you So we can do us said:
I think anyone who is against loud music is a good for nothing punk.Music is a way to express how your feeling and adding loudness lets everyone know how u r feeling!!!
September 9, 2008 2:29 PM
Ed said:
I am a 22 year old, so I really see both sides of the issue here. In all honesty I support doing something about it. I don't want to hear "your" music at all hours of the day and night when I'm trying to do work and listen to my own music at a comfortable level that doesn't vibrate the floors of my house. Yes, turn it up some, but not to the point it vibrates beds in buildings three blocks down. 15 feet is to much, but tolerable in most circumstances. I like my hearing, and I really can't understand why so many of my peers want to ruin their hearing by listening to music that's so loud you can't hear your own thoughts. I don't know about most of my Generation but I don't want to be wearing hearing aids by the time I'm 30, I rather like my hearing. Yes i'm all for Free Speech and Free Expression, but I also think that you should have some level of respect for the others around you. Express yourself, yes. But not in such a way it turns people against you. We're young now, but there will be a day when we become old too and we'll want our peace and quite too. Karma is a reality folks, what goes around really comes around.
September 23, 2008 8:55 AM
jorge said:
this is bullshit we pay houndres of dollers for our music if cop take away our car and music thats vialting our freedom
October 4, 2008 5:24 PM
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October 17, 2008 12:39 AM
Edgar said:

I think that this legislation is a stupidity and idiotic, the law should be like this, from 12am to 5am the volume of your music should be heard not further than 50fts. On recidential areas, and no limits on public areas. A stupid cop pulled me over one day at 11am with the volume of my truck, with its factory stereo and speekers, at 75% of it's power on, saying that my music was to loud, from out side the noise of my diesel engine truck was louder then my stereo, what an idiot. But any way, I think that politicians should be focused on more important things such as the economy, and spend our tax money that they get on a big paychek, taxes that we pay for music electronics in our cars, one last thing, if the volume of factory stereo of a car is too loud, they should go after the car factory, not us. Get on your heads  legislators      

February 14, 2009 11:46 AM
Edgar said:
I think that this legislation is a stupidity and idiotic, the law should be like this, from 12am to 5am the volume of your music should be heard not further than 50fts. On recidential areas, and no limits on public areas. A stupid cop pulled me over one day at 11am with the volume of my truck, with its factory stereo and speekers, at 75% of it's power on, saying that my music was to loud, from out side the noise of my diesel engine truck was louder then my stereo, what an idiot. But any way, I think that politicians should be focused on more important things such as the economy, and spend our tax money that they get on a big paychek, taxes that we pay for music electronics in our cars, one last thing, if the volume of factory stereo of a car is too loud, they should go after the car factory, not us. Get on your heads legislators
February 14, 2009 11:46 AM
MichaelMeyers said:

Driving is a privilege not a right.

If the goal is to listen to your music then fine.. get a set of headphones so as not to bother someone else.

But playing your music loud enough to bother someone else?  

Your rights END at your own nose.  Infringing upon other people's rights to live without hearing your pumped up low frequency bass noise and expecting nothing to be done about it is the same as saying you got more rights than "others".

I like many others live my life and don't like to get up into other people's space... trying to get sleep at 3:00 am in the morning only to be awakened by someone's $5000 stereo system doesn't make me think of THEIR rights at all.

You got a right to do what you want..  as long as it doesn't interfere with someone elses life and desires.

INCLUDING wanting to live in a reasonable amount of peace and quiet.

Problem with this "Boom Box Car" situation is that 90% of the people who own them are only doing this TO agitate people.

The writer of this article seems to lean towards the "music" people as the victims of over legistlation.

Funny how he forgot the real victims are people who have to put up with "boom boom" non stop.

He mentions a sad story about someone driving home and nearly falling asleep and using loud music as a hero to save him from crashing.

Are you kidding?  Responsible people don't do that.

Responsible people pull the hell over at a rest stop, drink coffee, take a nap on the side of the road or even a motel.

Let me also point out that he mentions a $750 fine when in fact the Sarasota law clearly stated $650 and THAT was for "repeat" offenders.

What a way to blow things out of proportion.

There is no excuse for playing your music at top level.

You want to hear your music loud?  Fine.  go in your own sound proof bedroom and crank it up.  I don't care.

Keep YOUR music out of MY ears!

February 15, 2009 10:52 AM
El Forastero said:

I'm sick of the boom boxes.  Damn near 24 hours a day where I live.  Sometimes my internal as well as external organs vibrate when these punks are blasting their shit.  I consider having someone vibrate my organs to be a violation of my civil rights.

Wake up at 6:00am on a Saturday.  There's booming still going on from the previous night.  Booming all day.  The neighbors start booming.  I'm rattled out.  Right now it's 2:44am on a Monday.  The booming has stopped.

I can't stand living inside a bass drum any longer!!  Fines?  Hell, the death penalty for these punks!  Let me give them the shot.

March 9, 2009 4:47 AM
Bobby said:
Although I agree that their should be tickets for unneccessarily loud sound systems, 25 feet is just a tad bit rediculous. I mean, what CAN'T you hear from 25 feet away? My freind got pulled over and issued a $100 ticket for his music "being too loud", and he has nothing close to what can be considered a "sound system". Although you can HEAR it from 25 feet, it wouldn't be LOUD, if he passed by your house you probibly wouldn't even hear it over the sound of his car (And his car is an unmodified Buick). Most stock car radios can be heard from 25 feet away, maybe more if the windows are down. Heck, I measured out 25 feet and put my headphones on full blast and asked my freind if he could hear it. Not only could he hear it, he could tell me what song it was. I think that the law should be raised back up to 100ft, and even then something that can be "heard" from 100feet isn't necessarily loud.
March 9, 2009 10:17 AM
Bobby said:
Oh, and Mike Meyers, I pay for the roads, and I paid for my drivers license. If you were to pay for something wouldn't it be considered a RIGHT to use it, and not a privilege?
March 9, 2009 10:19 AM

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