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90% of suspected terrorists able to buy guns in the U.S.

By Robert Sale Jun 30 2009, 06:09 AM

...But we still have to take our shoes off at the airport

Here's a quandary that pits those two titans of political theory, liberty and security, against each other yet again. A pesky Second Amendment-spawned showdown over gun control crossed with a we-can’t-let-the-terrorists-win scenario. Which side will sway your opinion with its set of arguments and statistics nearly equally balanced out by those of the other side? Read on to find out.

Here are the facts: according to the Government Accountability Office, since 2004, nine out of ten people who the FBI thinks are terrorists or terrorist associates have been able to purchase guns, ammunition, and other typically restricted material such as explosives right here in the United States. The FBI's Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB), the official name for its terrorist watch list, has no legal bearing on whether or not guns can be purchased by people on its rolls.

Here comes the outrage from the knee-jerk side: Are you kidding me? We deny guns to garden-variety felons, illegal immigrants, and even drug addicts, but let people we're pretty sure want to use those guns to kill innocent American civilians plunk down some cash and receive an instrument whose primary function is to end lives? What in the name of John McClane is going on here? Why are we not stopping these guys from not only acquiring killing machinery legally but also making us look like fools in the process?

The view that this is a serious state of affairs that needs to be corrected  has been espoused by Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), who has promised to introduce a bill that would allow mere presence on the TSDB to be grounds for denying someone a legally purchased firearm. Of course, the Attorney General's office would have to actually act upon said legislation in order for it to be effective (which is a dubious proposition), but something is at least being done about the current situation.

On the contrary, we have the slightly more subtly reasoned other side: What's the big deal? First, the terrorist watch list isn't 100% accurate about who's really dangerous and who's not. Share a name with an al-Qaeda operative, and you might find yourself simply out of luck. 24,000 people on that list are on there based on outdated or irrelevant information. Don't we want to err on the side of freedom and constitutionally protected rights here?

Second, this is a terrorist watch list. If they're dumb enough to buy guns using the name that the FBI knows about, then doesn't that just help us figure out which guys should be watched a little bit more closely, if you know what I mean? And thirdly, the TSDB's members are secret. Not even they know they're on there. If a citizen with no criminal record and no history of drug abuse or mental illness gets denied a gun, it'll be pretty clear why. Trying to buy a gun could be an easy test to see if you're being watched by the FBI or not.

So what do we do? Do we let the terrorists keep buying guns from us and sacrifice a little bit of peace of mind? Or do we let our justifiable fear curb civil liberties by a little bit and force ourselves to accept the possibility of mistakes? Undoubtedly, there's no right answer. It's not a catch-22, but it is a delicate balance that could easily be upset by a few voices on one side or the other yelling too loudly that they are in possession of the right answer, leaving those of us with an appreciation for just how thorny this situation is wishing that humans had never invented devices that made it so easy to kill other people.

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Ben Miner
June 30, 2009 7:54 AM

There is nothing thorny about it. The Constitution requires due process of law before rights can be taken away, and the "terror list" is clearly not due process. For one thing, there is no way to know if you are on the list or why, and no good process for appealing. (and how would you appeal something you don't know about in the first place?) The government should not have the power to restrict rights in secret. If a person has broken the law, then charge them with a crime and put them in jail. Otherwise, leave the Bill of Rights alone. And has anybody considered that if this proposed law were to go in effect it would be an easy way for somebody who really was a terrorist to see if the government was onto them?

Thanks Ben
June 30, 2009 7:54 PM

Thanks Ben; you said it all.

RugerRedhawk
July 1, 2009 5:52 AM

Are you somehow suggesting that they shouldn't be able to buy guns? Since when did being suspected of a crime strip you of your constitutional rights?

Foo Bar
July 1, 2009 1:16 PM

I think the problem here is that you have a constitutional right to buy a guy. SCROTUS has said so. So to deprive you of that right there must be due process. Boarding a plane, like driving a car, is not so much a right as a privlidge. Due process requirements are less in these cases.

SamAdams1776
July 1, 2009 2:27 PM

"...but let people we're pretty sure want to use those guns to kill innocent American civilians plunk down some cash and receive an instrument whose primary function is to end lives?..."

Aye, there's the rub: "pretty sure". Well we're "pretty sure" that Jews eat Christian babies so let's burn them at the stake.

We're "pretty sure" that these folks are planning a crime so let's throw them in prison. Any other civil rights you're "pretty sure" you'd like to eliminate? What do we need pesky due process for anyways, right?

 

         

 

 

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