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Gangs in the Military

By Django Gold Feb 22 2008, 07:16 PM

With the U.S. Army having missed its recruitment goals for the past three years, it is clear that the military must change its methods to appeal to the modern youth. Here, "change" roughly translates to "deteriorate," or perhaps "methods" equate to "madness." That's what this reporter thinks of the move to disqualify gang members from our country's armed forces.

Section 579 of the 2008 Nation Defense Authorization Act would have prohibited gang members from suiting up - effectively blackballing a section of the population that could contribute to the war effort and homeland security. President Bush vetoed the Act (not because of its gang-related content, but because of a separate section on freezing Iraqi assets in the US), but the spirit of Section 579 doubtlessly remains.

Justification for such exclusionary criteria seems well intended but baseless. The thought behind the policy is that if you put a bunch of gang members in fatigues and send them to the desert, they'll seize the many opportunities for destruction and mayhem. However, a military Intelligence Assessment released last year found that of the 10,309 recorded criminal incidents involving military personnel, a mere 16 of them were gang-related. Outside of a Jerry Bruckheimer production, the idea of isolated Crips and Bloods engaging each other in taxpayer-funded battles on the mean streets of Fallujah seems a bit delusional.  

What isn't delusional is realizing the best people to engage in warfare are those who have fired weapons and been at war before.  Aside from veterans, gang members carry the most experience.  And as study after study shows, an individual's environment is the greatest influencer of action.  The rigidity and brotherhood infused into the service branches may be just what these guys need and are looking for.  So why send them packing when there's a chance to accomplish three things at once: enhance recruitment, provide job training and a future to an underprivileged youth, and take a criminal off the street?  If they screw up, ship them out.

Any gang member that signed up with the Army would likely do so for the sole purpose of escaping his chaotic situation (not that Iraq is necessarily the best place for that) and making an honest living, not to cause trouble in the ranks.  

Continuing the lesson in pragmatic though, if legislation like Section 579 were to be passed, just how would gang members be weeded out? A yes/no question on the application? Check their tattoos? Observe if they only button the top button of their flannel shirts?  See how pimped their ride is?  

The idea of "purifying" the military of negative influence is shortsighted and petty; it distracts from the real problem: the military continues to be seen as an unattractive option. If the military hopes to meet its recruitment quotas, it's going to have to get a bit more creative, open minded, and practical.

 

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RJ
February 28, 2008 9:25 AM

Are you insane? Gang members join the military for the purpose of learning all they can about weapons, tactics, and finances. Then they bring that back hom and use it against citizens and local law enforcment. Do more research before you write such nonsense next time. Typical one-sided, narrow minded media.

Ron
February 28, 2008 10:56 AM

That's the same stupid BS the government uses to discriminate against these people. Do you really think people want to be gang members...like they sit around and can't think of a better life and then one day it's oh I know how I can be the best gang banger out there...join the military! give me a break buddy. they are trying to get away from a life of poverty and fear and the military provides the option. After a 3 year tour in Iraq and seeing things beyond their little ghettos they are not going to be returning to their narrow lives and start setting IEDs in front of low-riders with fancy hubcaps. LOL

Iraq Veteran
February 28, 2008 1:18 PM

Discriminate against gang members? Are you serious?

Seth
April 8, 2008 4:16 PM

If gang members really want to join the military to escape the streets than when they join they should be made to reject all criminal activity and gang affiliation by marking out their gang related tattoos and branding. No gang member contraband and dress and act in a more respectable manner. The same rules should apply to everyone If you are truly trying to escape the streets than you wont have a problem with growing up and be a respectable individual. If you are going to represent our country and its citizens than act like you have some sense and be a man. Leave the streets back home and start down a new path.

Fred
May 27, 2008 4:24 PM

Local govt complains of gang violence, but does nothing about it, except to try to ban guns, which are already illegal for them to possess. How about a "special" military program, where a violent gang member is sentenced to special squads in Iraq to take on terrorists that disrespect him? This also partially solves the military's recruitment problem.

Unknown
November 5, 2008 1:29 AM

I think that it is possible i see people who i know and enlisted in the military and are still related to gangs. Recruiter try to cover up things they have done wrong so  that this gang members can enlist. Also if you go to Youtube you'll see video's of these military gangs.

snappy
November 11, 2008 2:43 PM

Gang members join to be trained so that when they get out they can teach there buddy's on the street. If you were in a street war with a rival gang and both of you are untrained your going to want to get a leg up and get training so you can beat them, that's what these guys are doing.

Carter F Smith
December 6, 2008 3:02 PM

H.R. 1585 was vetoed (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h1585/show), but it looks to me like H.R. 4986 passed by both houses of Congress and signed by the President back in January. -- Section 544 - became law (Public Law 110-181), and requires the Secretary of Defense to prescribe regulations to prohibit the active participation of military personnel in street gangs. http://gangfighters.blogspot.com/2008/07/can-you-prevent-membership-in-organized.html

JP
January 9, 2009 9:52 PM

Next thing they'll do is start discriminating against pedophiles, robbers, murders, etc. They'll start making abunch of rules that force us as a society to become more discriminatory. For instance, they'll say you can't just take something that doesn't belong to you. ThenIf you do they will put the victim of discrimination (offender) into a holding facility which is discrimination and segregation! Give us a break Mr. Gold. If you want gangsters (criminals) in the military, live with them in your own house first and let us know how that goes.

concerned vet
January 28, 2009 5:18 PM

I assume you have not seen news about various cop murders that have been committed by gangsters who have received military training and can instruct their fellows in tactics. It is a major threat to the safety of our law enforcement officers and the deterioration you mention is more aptly applied to the subtle ways modern recruiters DO try to appeal to these gangsta youths. Wearing their baggy utility uniforms off base, promoting gangsta rap, etc. I have even seen NCOs with their pants down below regulation level. It's all very unprofessional and should be frowned upon. Allowing this rabble into our armed forces is a frightening concept, at least to me.

Johny
February 4, 2009 12:03 PM

I think that gangs members should be allowed to be in the military. This can go two ways one good one bad alot of you think that gangs should not be in the military because they are trying to get away from there currupted lives and from dangerous streets. Alot of you think that they shouldnt be in the military becuase they are causing to many problems and they are going to use there training against rival gangs or People of the LAW witch i think is pritty stupid. I really dont care what any of you think but if you trying to get away from a fucked up life and there are no more options left the military is the way to go. Its not like the military is a better life but it does make a person who has no education and no money breath easier.

Dale
February 8, 2009 1:01 PM

If gang members join the army is a bad thing than we shouldnt let them in right? but yet at the same time every one has a right to jain the army

bob
February 12, 2009 12:54 PM

listen to johnny dumbasses

fact
February 23, 2009 1:13 AM

Gang members make poor solders, in spite of your half baked (or comical) theory about shooting guns before.  They should be denied service, and restricted from military training.  Bringing it back to the hood make the problem worse (home invasions).  Gang members should deprogrammed from their twisted, selfish, brainwashed ways, not trained to fight better so they can use it to profit from crimes.

You must be children running this site.  I'd like a pack of ex-military gang bangers to come to your house at around 1am to send the point home.

Johny
February 23, 2009 12:37 PM

I dont understand your telling me that you want them to restrict gangs from the military tell me how the f**k would you do that? i mean gang members dont carry cards or some type of identification to show what they are and what gang there from. You might as well say no one with tattoos can join the military. and 70% of hour military has gangs even durring the vietnam war go do your HOMEWORK.

ckn
March 1, 2009 1:48 AM

This is insane.  The military, who hates to admit anything is wrong, has admitted and has allowed articles in Stars and Stripes about the increase in gang problems.  The violence, the tagging, the flashing, etc.  I just don't think this writer did any research and is completely ignorant.  I just can't get over the stupidity.

1234
March 2, 2009 6:56 AM

Gangbangers should be allowed to enlist. They're okay people, they know when to compromise. It's you dorks who don't have any life experience that don't like them. Believing everything mass media tells you. Besides, if you've ever been punked by a gangbanger, you probably had it coming.

1234
March 2, 2009 7:00 AM

The crimes they commit are usually after they are discharged. As long as it isn't during active duty.

noBS
April 25, 2009 5:09 PM

1234 is obviously a gang member...or a bumbling idiot

"Besides, if you've ever been punked by a gangbanger, you probably had it coming."

what a douche bag!

UknowIt
April 29, 2009 9:31 PM

I agree with noBS...... douche

unknown
May 8, 2009 3:42 AM

Homeland security; this are the two words we should be worried about.  If a gang member wants to fight for its country it should, but lets hope he or she is really doing for that other than that is really treason and should really have heavy consequences for their shitty mentality, gang mentality, if it where up to me live in prison!

Dale is a retard
June 18, 2009 6:28 PM

Dale, you're a retard.

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